troops could be leaving afghanistan by the end of 2014. at this moment afghan president hamid karzai is in washington meeting with members of the senate foreign relations committee and he is set to meet with president obama on friday but here's the question. even if we say billions, by bringing our troops home, could the strategy backfire and end up costing more than it would save? joining me, peter brookes, senior fellow at the heritage foundation. peter, welcome to the show. i want to start with the meeting they're having today, what do you think about that? is it achieving anything? is it meant for optics as they say right now? is there something real about it? >> certainly capitol hill is one of the levers of influence in washington, right? i mean, karzai is in town to meet with the president. i think he is meeting with leon panetta tomorrow at the pentagon. he is looking for allies. he is looking to stake out his position on the future of afghanistan as we move towards some sort of troop withdrawal or lower levels of troop presence in